This is not Mayberry but a potential Petri dish for psychopaths. Do you think an LE source might be talking to one of them or perhaps someone who knows one of them? Mr. Xs wife, his daughter, and Becky Patty are now putting out a story that Mr. X never lost his keys in the first place. Why would they NOT want to look for those types of things in a child murder with likely sa involved? They also acknowledge that SSA, or same sex attraction is a logical process for a lot of men. Not the people who called him distasteful. Many people from the Delphi area have gone over to went over to Evansdale to work on plants over there. Clown. If anyone has arguments for or against dp please direct message me info! Rumor is that Abbys was pink. There are screenshots showing the discrepancies. We think people need to stop talking about DNA. Important residence periods: Moved to Evansdale, Iowa in 2011-2012 to work at a slaughterhouse possibly aligned with Tyson Foods there. If the person later ends up pleading/found guilty to misdemeanors and no felony convictions occur out of that arrest, the person can request their sample be expunged from the database after 1 year, so long as no other charges are filed (in which case the chance to test DNA is lost). FSG, or DMC: Probably shouldnt use his real name, but hes on everybodys suspect list. No, I Dont Lack Credibility or Legitimacy, Alt Left: Hate the Collective But Love the Individual. Faked to make it look like he could not possibly have committed the crime because he was more devastated than anyone else. LE asked him to move the vehicle. Im a real nice guy, I treat my commenters well, and Im basically this mild-mannered, unassuming, intellectual, professor type. But we are not naming person. The motive was sexual. Etc. Maybe he sent it to Libbys phone. But we know that binoculars were used in this crime because we have search warrants and binoculars are one of the things that are listed on the search warrants. Etc. We now know who the FBI was looking into at first as a potential . I am featuring a world renowned psychic detective through an interview Ill be conducting tomorrow. Unlike any other sleuthers, we have determined the main suspects in the case, have a good idea of what happened during the crime and what the crime scene looked like, and have recently figured out the motive. The autopsy of the other would know if she was a virgin and even if the killer violated her with whatever she would have bled a little so that could have been detected also. A famous one is the Lewiston Killer in Lewiston, Idaho in the late 1970s. R/DelphiMurders is completely useless due to their no rumors or speculation rules, which means that you can only discuss what is proven about the case, which after four years, is just about nothing. Im sure there are instances where its been used as an effective tactic in helping to solve crimes. It says at one point apparently Machine Operator as a title, but then the vid definitely makes it a point to focus on Christian Teen Club. Not sure what the implication is there, but one can certainly imagine. Stay tuned. 2 people did the actual murders and a woman behind the initial plan. Lists a factory as place of residence. I never got to see that info. Theres no evidence that either man has been to the bridge even one time! There was a knife sticking out of the log next to one girls head. Ok he has committed some sort of sex crimes or other or weird crimes like peeping and whatnot. ), and has a strong connection to the girls. If he is a poser, which is the worst of the worst, and he has a transport company, that gives him carte blanche to move around in committing more crimes of this nature in different parts of the country as he travels. On the way back he sees and follows Libby/Abby across the bridge, coercing them down the hill and killing them around 2:20-2:40. This claims are quite dubious and we dont suggest anyone put any weight into them. Sorry for this poorly worded question. is that creepy guy still following us?. He was searching for the girls. Thats very embarrassing. How would she be a few weeks pregnant by a guy that just raped her? Indiana State Police Sgt. I get it. I have an official case document here in my hand. Thanks for all the info much appreciated. I cant tell you how many searches I participated in when I was in uniform for kids this age. I'm a little different in my approach here as I do want people to break my theories down but I not everyone is like that. Furthermore, we have two different LE sources, both detectives in Indiana, tell us that this is exactly what happened. The 50-year-old married man arrested on Friday in connection with the 2017 Delphi murders has now been pictured for the first time - more than five years on from the double slaying of teenage best friends Libby German and Abby Williams.. Richard Matthew Allen, from Delphi, Indiana, was taken into custody at around midnight and booked into Carroll County Jail. This Video is protected under copyright laws and violators will be prosecuted. How do you join and can you join as a European? You dont need a degree, credential, and a license to do this job, you know. You said parent, so that gives me a clue. Id be surprised if he were in on this, but stranger things have happened. So yeah, if you type in Mr Xs real govt registered name into the old YT, you get a handful of cryptic videos, slideshows with creepy music typical for this sort of thing. Anyway, LE believes that Bridge Guy is Mr. X. Theyre not looking at anyone else. The most recent news release came Monday, after News 8 reporting on investigators who acknowledged the delay in Klines arrest. I'm being very careful in applying that theory to what is available, but it has made sense of the two sketches being so different. This is what happened. We believe he just told LE she was coming, it went out over the scanner, and she never showed up. I think this whole crime scene was severely compromised but still doable I am going to bet dollars to donuts there will be a person arrested February 13th, 2022. I found it to be a really compelling theory, and as captain mentioned in the pod, the missing link with all the other "good fit" POIs that have been discussed is they cannot be placed at the scene. Its as if she took the grief of a whole town under her breast and pledged to suffer for them all, Jesus-like. Guilty until proven innocent! He stopped for gas and cigarettes. The fact that we were given little to no information about what really happened to Abby and Libby other than they were murdered by BG) from LE says a lot more to me than LE lets on. I dont get internet drama but everyone seems to have stronger reactions both for and against when dp gets brought up than anyone else. Abby and Libby, best friends in the eighth grade, were on a hiking. Welcome to the site! In my option the perp is home grown. This blood will probably will not come out with the wash. Could it that the killers were middle aged men, DP and not sure yet, maybe FSG but both dressed exact same so people would be confused? If so, this proves that this crime was planned nearly down to the minute. Join the best Delphi sleuthing group of all! Are they deliberately lying to us? Is there any meaning to these numbers or is he just playing sneaky, tricky games with us like these guys often do. DAs require a very high standard of evidence to bring a homicide charge against someone. It is an educational conversation about the current facts and opinion theories discussed in this investigation. Why did Mr. X not drive his truck away when it was in the way of all of the police cars? The crime was committed in February 13 or 2/13. Robert, I am wondering why no reply to my question? The problem is that there is a main suspect in the case, and it is known that he was near the crime scene from 6:30 PM on the 13th until 9:30 PM on the 14th. The last thing they need is this motley crew invading their town. I am having trouble reconciling something.. if Mr X is who I think he is, you state that he graduated in 1984 but I am finding by looking at the Delphi yearbooks online, that he graduated in 1986? You will see below where we regard certain things as Proven. Hi folks! Too much points to them to be coincidence. He only discusses facts. I I heard the girls say repeatedly, Its Elementary Watson, and 2 plus 2 equals 4. Theyre Delphi related videos comparing his appearance to BG. You dont have to join. At the very least he could have made misleading statements. The voice was a good match, the clothes looked familiar, and the walk was dead on. They have thought they had the right guy several times in the Zodiac case, but all of the suspects fell through. It was dusty and disheveled. If so, wouldnt the coroner be able to obtain DNA from the fetus? There is a suspected child killer in the Bay Area who is responsible for 5-10 child murders. Answers to questions about my credibility. This goes on all the time, however. I cant see where this is! When the Col. and Cpt did their very first episode back at the start the glaring fact shared was that the county has one of the highest sexual offender rates per capita in all of the US of A. Both my gut instinct and logic are screaming, Verify the statements of FSG!! For a FREE month of listening go to http://stitcherpremium.com/truecrimegarage and use promo code GARAGEBeer Fund: https://truecrimegarage.com/home. Via LE Source A, we learned that LE has only recently started to believe that BG (Mr. X) is also responsible for the Evansdale Murders. I have no idea either way, but its just something that has bothered me because I dont see him being brought up nearly as much as some others who have had little to no connection to this case. Delphi murders cops slammed for keeping people 'in the dark' STAR LIVES ON Ray Liotta's daughter gives heartbreaking tribute to late dad at Walk of Fame Police still ask anyone with information about the case to submit a tip at abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com or 765-822-3535. @Skip, We will discuss Ethics in reporting and other significant issues surrounding the case!Join Me Behind The Crime Door.\"Where Nothing Is Ever As It Seems!\" Super Thanks option is now available for those who appreciate the replays and want to support. Thanks, Mike! It finally started to sink in to these geniuses when the case was made look one of the eye witnesses who contributed to the 1st BG sketch is a lady who lives right behind Ron Logan, dont you think if the Killer was Ron that she would say, simply yeah the guy I saw that day lives right behind me? Not that anyone who has half a brain needs to be convinced Ron Logan is not the killer lol. The next day, News 8 broke the story connecting Kegan Kline to the account. Have you been in contact with her at all? In addition, we may have more documents. His brother looks very much like him (for example! In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use.All opinions in this video are mine and mine alone. What time was RL on video eating pizza? He states when he got home that night (13th) one of his neighbors had came over to ask if he could search his property, looking for the girls. If it was deleted it's probably because he is the one on the actual physical witch hunt in actual real life. However, Mindtruth has done a number of episodes on our information and I thank Bruce for that very much. How do you know he had a deer kit and how many knives he had? He may well have had a deer blind on the Mears property. Personally I wouldn't have let this episode leave the recording booth. The only DNA found on the girls was that of Kelsi, sister of Libby. family/fianc/false alibi providers), or more than meets the eye with this suspect. Cause of death of one girl was a deep cut to the throat. Possible Harley buddies (friends who ride Harley-Davidson motorcycles), as Mike is an avid Harley rider. Was he set up to take the fall? @Brad (AZ)- Hindsight is 20-20 and this case might have been the one case out out of a million that might have borne fruit had they continued searching. Not even Becky Patty and she was probably more devastated than anyone and probably still is. Skip said something on the true crime garage podcast that sounded to me like he is not in law enforcement. I'll just have to get licensed in the jurisdiction where it happens. I have one more message for you. But after continuing to receive these pings and after it being 5 years, I went back and decided to post as these images have since plagued me. Let me jump in here. I like some of these guys. If the killer had that weird and I would assume rare fetish with the sticks, branches and stakes, maybe the local sex workers may know exactly who it is? I apologize for all of the questions. We dont know who his roommate was in Delphi and then again in Evansdale, and we also dont know what sort of work they had both been moved over there for. I do not feel that this has anything to do with anything. I have not been able to determine that from all of these postings. I understand that all of my information may not be correct! Deals with gruesome matters concerning the brutal sex murders of four female minors mostly about two young teenage girls aged 13 and 14 but also a bit about related murders of two little girls aged 8 and 10. I guess he cant make up his mind. I do not feel comfortable answering that question right now. Do you believe your POI acted alone to abduct and eventually kill the girls? Yes, that is part of Leigh Kerrs testimony. But they didnt get to ask him about PB. This is not Mayberry but a potential Petri dish for psychopaths. It was believed that someone was killing females and removing their hearts. A transcript of what they thought was being said was agreed on by this group. The Delphi murders are among the most famous murders in the United States, and the texts are now circulating on the Internet. Im the one who did it. The end goal here is justice for Abby and Libby. FAIR USE Section 107 of the Copyright Act of 1976. Abby and Libby were murdered after going for a hike near an old bridge in February 2017. I have no idea if Skip, Jersey, and New Cricket are the same person, and I honestly don't care. We have an LE source, a detective in Indiana, who told us just that. They have most recently stated that they want to avoid double jeopardy. I tend to think its a doll. true crime garage stitcher 27 Feb. true crime garage stitcher You want me to put it up? LE actually believes BG was 49-50 years old when he committed the crime. They think he did it. To do this, he uses the knives the deer kit that BG has around his waist. So many armchair-detective, keyboard warriors who want to insert themselves into something they know nothing about; if they had any sense, they would realize that he is traveling to Delphi to answer questions, sort fact from fiction and definitively disprove the countless false claims and bad information that has spread about this case. The flip side is LE only gets one shot so even if they have a recommendation of charges against a POI from a grand jury, they can't waste it until their case is beyond any reasonable doubt. There was a rumor that he was "unaccounted for" for 45 minutes around the time of the murders. Nic comes on and says hes not on here to discuss suspects and literally does just that. She cited instances of abuse and alcoholism. But they used experts to clean it up with fancy software and groups of experts got together to try to figure out what was being said. There was a rumor that he was "unaccounted for" for 45 minutes around the time of the murders. Not important? So Id just as soon stop looking at him as a suspect. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I must say, its obvious that Skip is about four levels higher than Grey Hughes. I dont see a motive for Mr. X either, and he did live right there. I guess one thought about the cops searching for videos, and I dont know the specific wording but could it be they are looking for businesses or residences that have security cameras? I will. Same with Evansdale probably too. You came over here after sitting over of that hate Reddit, LibbyandAbby where youve been hating on me. Relationship with older daughter and stepson: Unknown. Kline is now scheduled to go on trial in May. Within a ditch along a country road on her way home from school shortly after her murder. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. They want to keep him in the dark. We now have a better time frame for Mr. Xs truck being parked at the cemetery. So he obviously kept a copy of that for himself. Thats good enough for us to be probative. This was just the most underhanded, disgusting display of we need a fall guy, and LE should be ashamed of themselves. I agree I hope CN and this new guy do sue you. Drunkard perhaps. I dont know if its in a garage, or the shed, perhaps? Good question Jess. He lives in an ivory colored mobile looking home within the country. Hence, none of his DNA from the forest around the girls is usable. Seine Erfahrung Privacy Policy. The second sketch looks uncannily like DP. They showed the boots in an evidence bag to the media later on that night, and they said, Oh, this is nothing. What I should have asked is just what if anything has Ron Logan said about the photo and left out if the guy on the bridge (BG) was a friend of Ron Logans because obviously if he was a friend we would now know who BG is. Im not buying the fact that they just werent equipped to handle an investigation of this magnitude. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, This is a community where we can speak openly about the Murders of Libby and Abby in Delphi, IN, Press J to jump to the feed. They have enough suggestive evidence to make them think he did it, but if you look a the nature of their actual evidence, its awfully thin. Just a little while ago, New Cricket made a post in a true crime subreddit with a link to an article from Psychology Today about killers hiding in plain sight. We believe he could have been staging that elaborate crime scene during that time. Kline admitted to state and federal agents that he opened the account just 12 days after the murders of Abigail "Abby" Williams and Liberty "Libby" German near Delphi in February 2017. One of his many interesting hobbies was abducting and raping young women. Suspect: Ok, you got me. Well, the police have told us that they have a main suspect in this case, so at least I am just going to go with the cops on this one. I will. Thank you so much! Temp banned. Can not figure out what P stands for. All other POIs are dropped or cleared at least as being the killers themselves. This has been misrepresented by doubters as the scanner saying to let Mrs. X into the sealed off area because shes bringing Mr. X his keys. No, I wasnt aware that she existed. Stabbing of one girl in the neck artery at some point after the above events. There are fields behind his home! How many journalists do you know who actually went to J-school and have J-degrees? 2023 CIRCLE CITY BROADCASTING I, LLC. The catfishing situation is not what we think. Why not join the 240+ members who have already signed up for the best Delphi sleuthing team of all? I dont get it. How do they know he sent audio/video to one of the girls phones? Ron Logan: Enough already. Now, I have denied knowing something that I actually knew, but that was to protect the integrity of an investigation. Shop eBooks and audiobooks at Rakuten Kobo. at the car and heads back across the bridge to the car by himself while his cheating girl waits for him on the trails. Brad Holder: Brads son, Jason, was Abbys boyfriend. He could offend today in say, Ohio and offend in Illinois and be in his journey back home to commit more offenses. . What do people think he was saying that "fooled" police? A murderer is stupid if he sues someone for claiming he murders. Corn fields? We do not have a copy of that gag order, but we were told that one had been issued by the courts. I just was curious if DP was posting stuff on social media regarding the killing at one time, what the nature of his posts were. Have you guys/Skip discussed or explored the theory that DP is covering for someone else - hence the inconsistencies to his story. The date of the crime and the time of the abduction are both 2-13. Was present when the Evansdale Murders occurred. Instead of attacking the guy, why not support him! Mr. X not only discovered the bodies, but he ran away in terror afterwards. Bottom line is the quality of our sources has increased dramatically over time. They all go off and do their own work. However, an interesting theory is that BG may have attempted to frame Ron Logan with this crime for obscure reasons. Could be to cover their own asses. The judge would say you dont even have enough evidence against this man to take this case to court and throw it out of court. Yes I thought the suspect had been recorded walking on the raailroad tracks on one of the girls phones. Another document we have is another search warrant, this time for the Maxwell property. I wish I could delete this comment because it made no sense. If others want to dig around and find out who he is, thats their business. Skip and I will discuss where the second sketch may have come from. This is part of what they thought was being said, yes. I read most of those posts over there and of course I read any post about me. There are men going down on this all the time all over the US. Theyre swarming all over this crime scene, and the killer is standing right here under their noses in the midst of the chaos for hours, and these coptards cant figure this out. We think he likes to fool and troll LE. The guys and Skip talked about DPs place within the timeline on the day of the murders, went into some details about his role in regards to a supposed "couple arguing" under the bridge within minutes of the time of the murders, and the woman involved in his alleged alibi. @lemon @scarlet - I could not agree more. Thanks for your time. Sexual age orientation: Pedohebephilia, nonexclusive, AOA 8-14. This week we continue our coverage of this very high profile case. Who is Skip that you think "he is traveling to Delphi to answer questions, sort fact from fiction and definitively disprove the countless false claims and bad information that has spread about this case"?? Same spelling as well. It turns out that BGs shoes are dead perfect matches for Indiana Packers workboots. Read free previews and reviews from booklovers. It has been said there were dolls and stuffed animals around the girls. 11 Want me to put it up anyway? Obviously this is the only type of personality that is capable of podcasting an egomaniac on the other hand, their personality pathology limits the usefulness of their shows. To be fair, two other men were also searching Rons land that night and they didnt find anything either, so it looks like those girls were pretty hard to miss. I find it interesting that you stated he told the girls that he was a railroad policeman so that audio must have been on one of the girls cell phones? Its not clear how? . Via LE Source A, we have learned that in both crimes: The following are unverified rumors with at least some probability of being true: Indiana LE did not validate the rumors about some aspects of the crime scene such as: This is probably one of the flat-out weirdest aspects of the case of all. Which one is responsible for the fake DP facebook account? After all, there was nothing they could have done anyway. The few times Ive brought him up myself (this is really on Reddit) I have been ripped apart for my apparent stupidity. Lets hope they find some peace. I in no way have intentions of spreading false information. However, shouldnt that same exact principle/logic apply to Mr. X? Im not sure how he got there, if he drove a car, or if so, where he parked it. Eventually the evidence I uncovered kept coming back to DP being the POI rather than him covering for someone. Most of them are from the other sub. But alas, he raped one lass too many, and the law closed in on him holed up in his home, which now resembled Dodge City. Also if Kegans not involved, then neither is the father. The others are guardians. Im confused. What did Ron Logan have to say about the BG photo? The change in sketches, the age range, much of what has been said by LE etc. Theres no woman among them. Im sure its very interesting to posit your wandering speculation about what if this or maybe something or possibly why, who or what, but at the end of the day, its writing words in the air with water vapor to be blown away with the next wind. They act like Im sort of deranged psychopathic maniac whos a danger to women and children. He parked 1,000 feet away from Rons door, almost a quarter mile away. Yes, the police have told us that they now think that Bridge Guy or Mr. X did Evansdale too. This is getting ridiculous. @Chris Paul(Phoenix)- We believe he did this because there may have been incriminating evidence in there. We have the basic outlines of the crime sketched, and weve even filled in a lot of the blanks. It was stated that Libby was nude. The conviction is expunged. These idiot cops. I believe you could be spot on with your main POI. DELPHI, Ind. He was also scared to join her group because I was in there and he was afraid of me. Hey Robert, absolutely love reading your blogs. But how could they possibly know this? Anyway, where you at with this case now? He is one of the first and only witnesses in this case!!. Not sure of the significance here. In other words, LE are convinced that BG filmed or videotaped his crime. We dont do that on here and never have. @Skip, Dont pay any attention to that.. Nick~ There is evidence that may have worked at a Tyson packing plant in Logansport in 2011-2012. The bodies were dumped near flowing water, creeks or rivers. We want to stress that Kline has not been charged in the murders of Abby and Libby. However, some people are stupid enough to sue even when they are guilty. Richard Matthew Allen was arrested for the 2017 double murder of Liberty German and Abigail Williams in October 2022. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9738939/Lori-Vallow-charged-conspiracy-commit-murder-death-fourth-husband-Arizona.html?fbclid=IwAR2haqAKhF0vqWzP2aKiNyDy14kIG7SCjPxtWVXndA3Dt49wvD5xXRByYT8. After 5:30 PM, news of the girls going missing went out over the police scanner. Enough is enough. He got turned in because two brothers for some reason were saying that he was BG. Thank you I came here after being directed to you. Published: Feb. 8, 2022 at 3:28 PM PST. I tune in to their broadcasts and most of it is these narcissists collecting narcissistic supply, which is being doled out by their worshipful audience. So I held off. Thanks. I guess Im not sure when he graduated. I'm not asking about if someone inadvertently gave an alibi, I'm asking if you believe more than one person had knowledge during and after the murders were carried out. 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