[2] When she turned 18, she formally left foster care[d] but continued living with the family whose home she was in. And it became pretty clear to me that they had spoken to Carrie and or seen medical records. Or is this something thats been overlooked? "They are the people that support you, look out for you, & love you unconditionally. Her supporters at Penn have called for the university's acting provost, Beth Winkelstein, to be held accountable for her role in the investigation, which has been characterized as a continuation of the abuse. It recommended the scholarship be rescinded. I wrote a poem about the actual what the message was, which is so cheesy and Im cringing at my 17-year-old self [laughs], but it was about the healing power of gratitude. [2] Katie Couric had Fierceton as a guest on her podcast a week later. But while OSC allowed that it may not have been Fierceton's explicit intent to deceive, she had still done so, particularly when checking "yes" on the question on her SP2 application as to whether she was the first in her family to attend college (Fierceton stands by her reliance on Penn's definitions of FGLI on the Penn Plus website and the applicable federal laws; the university says that question is "composed of ordinary words with everyday meanings, and it makes no reference to any term or definition appearing in any other publication. "How much does one have to suffer to have value? Fierceton clarified her identity during the interview:[4]. And MacKenzie is the only one whos allowed to answer these questions. Fierceton clarified the details in question and Ruderman said she understood better. And then to be so unanimously disbelieved and, at that point, this article was like a paragraph and a half. The battle between her and the school was chronicled by Rachel Aviv in the New Yorker earlier this month. And theyll openly talk about this. My life is over, Im in the hospital, Im at rock bottom. Logan filed her wrongful death suit in August 2020, alleging Penn was negligently responsible for her husband's death through failing to make Caster properly accessible and not making SP2 develop an emergency response protocol. RG: And what was the first-generation community like on campus? Is it as well explored territory as a school-to-prison pipeline? But once I got out of the hospital and I learned that information, I remembered that a classmate had died in the same basement about 16 months earlier. MF: Yeah. How much research has been done on the foster-care-to-prison-pipeline? And Im kind of one of the lucky ones where I had really expansive and thorough documentation for all the parts of this story. RG: who was, I believe now, the acting provost. What kind of a group is that? And thats actually one of the things that, if there was any doubt whatsoever about this story, in some ways it was settled by that. There were three instances of attempted contact from her family or foster family. Fierceton had apparently made much of her status as a 'first generation, low income' student, an abuse survivor who aged out of foster care. And its no offense its not like the most profound . Uh, my lawyer. [2] The psychologist testified that she had seen both mother and daughter during 2007 and 2008. And so, just the immediate reaction was like: Theres no way. Fellow students, their parents and Whitfield faculty also noticed signs which led them to suspect abuse. But the acclaim quickly devolved into acrimony as the university and the Rhodes Trust began questioning aspects of Fiercetons backstory. [1]:111112, In her Intercept interview, Grim recounts how this was reported in The New Yorker and asks "So how is a person who is filling out this application supposed to know what definition youre supposed to use?" And how much confidence do you have that that anonymous complainer was Carrie, your biological mother. The notation in her transcript remains. Mackenzies critics even began nitpicking how much blood was in her hair while she was in the intensive care unit. [4] Within days, the father of one of Fierceton's Whitfield friends, and a high-school classmate using an anonymous email, contacted Penn to inform them she had apparently misrepresented herself and had actually spent most of her childhood in her mother's home in an affluent West County suburb of St. Louis. And I think I just share that because I think its a powerful example of if that is as far as theyre going to go when theres literal documentation from child me and that accusing me of that being faked, I really am like: I dont know, short of a video montage of instances of abuse from 6 to 16, what would convince them. What foster family were you with in X,Y, Z year? Fierceton described herself as a first-generation college applicant who came from a low-income, foster-care background. But part of it is funding decisions. Its a very different lifestyle. The fact that they even challenged that really does expose a lot of whats going on here because I assume in their mind, theyre saying: Well, she went to this private school; she had a nice house; her mom probably drove a nice car maybe you even drove a decent car! I have all these three kinds of different rationale and corroborations. And then I remembered that my teacher had told me to write a gratitude list. Fine. The 35-year-old has been hit with two warrants for his arrest. There was also the part of me that was terrified. Fierceton said later that she had never used the word "poor" to describe herself or her childhood. as a kid. box, it's like you have to fit yourself in, saying: Are you the first in your family to attend? But those definitions arent anywhere to be found. And they were the ones I believe and this is public now because Penn attached it to their response to the lawsuit I filed and I believe they were the first ones to mention that I had gone to private school and that they were questioning if I was low-income. "I think that we could contribute to the community, the broader Philadelphia community, and the West Philadelphia community more positively, instead of doing things that are not only undermining them but are actively policing them, and end up creating and perpetuating more violence," she told The Daily Pennsylvanian, the university's student newspaper. MF: And with that, like you said, notion of: Well, theres no way that you went to private school and all of this could have still happened, or that you could be low-income now and this idea that socioeconomic status is permanent. Right. How old were you when you were applying to college? Like you said, theres also the cultural stereotype of like Orphan Annie and Oliver Twist of what these kinds of kids are supposed to look like that starts so early on in, and deep in the culture or media that we encounter that I think really ingrains that into people. And I ended up reading the comments, and the comments were just horrendous. In other words, if you are parent who says that you are wishing your daughter well and youre telling the authorities that shes just mentally ill and its just a really, really sad and tragic case that shes making up all of these allegations of abuse and throwing herself down stairs, and beating herself up all for cries for help, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera you wouldnt then also pursue a multi-year long effort to destroy her life. [1]:111112, Penn's investigators asked Fierceton why she had pretended to be asking on another's behalf when she made her queries within the university. Deconstructed is a production of First Look Media and The Intercept. It didnt have any facts of the case. The dean of SP2 told Penn otherwise, but Fierceton noted that the school had never shared what its definition was. Later, another Whitfield parent Morrison had talked to told this woman that she believed Fierceton had done this to get admitted to an Ivy League college, an idea which she found preposterous. Why were you in the hospital that long? And its striking to see just the continuing to push of what happened. The university's police did not know at first where the building was and the city's paramedics did not know how to get to it. [2] Ruderman's story, published the next day, began:[13]. And how much confidence do you have that that anonymous complainer was Carrie, your biological mother. Yeah. But I guess I cant say for sure. Because that was one of the ones that really blew my mind. Im part of a wrongful death lawsuit that was filed in August, 2020. I do think that it is a huge defense mechanism that people deploy. You had mentioned that you actually made a transcript of your interview with Deputy Provost Finkelstein shortly after the conversation. 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I didnt really know what it was going to be, but I feel like its always good to have someone with you. Fierceton responded that that showed the university's "vulnerability and desperation". When they did, they were unable to get stretchers or backboards down Caster's stairways or elevators as there was insufficient space. I took photos of the building and sent it to them, and I was connecting them with different people who were in my class, who were in his class. She is a student who found herself in a complex and easily-misunderstood situation: working towards her degree without support from family. He died of his heart attack within 12 minutes of arrival at the hospital. This can happen to someone in my community. [2], During her high school years, Fierceton has alleged that her mother subjected her to emotional and physical abuse, the latter enough on more than one occasion to require hospitalization. Two other women he was involved with had also reported him to law enforcement). [2], Morrison retained William Margulis, a former member of Whitfield's board who had sent four of his children there, including one of her daughter's classmates, as her attorney. And I started interviewing people who were in the class where he died and who were in nearby classes where he died, who knew him, and paramedics who were Penn paramedics and just as many people as I could. And I asked in the email exchange: Is this about the anonymous email? RG: Right. They had done their own investigation again, quotes on investigation and then I had submitted over a hundred pages of documents to them. I n November 2020, University of Pennsylvania graduate student Mackenzie Fierceton, 24, won the Rhodes Scholarship to study at Oxford University. Yeah, I mean, so that specific definition wasnt public until 2018. [2], Brandt interviewed Morrison, who described herself and her daughter as "two peas in a pod". She ruined her moms career. And in the U.S., there is much more pressure to pull kids out of homes, right? Asked about Lovelace's alleged sexual abuse, specifically an incident the year before where Fierceton, having fallen asleep in her mother's bed, woke to find him caressing her breasts, Morrison expressed amusement at the possibility that her boyfriend could have mistaken her teenage daughter for her; Lovelace, interviewed separately, denied all the allegations. And it was a very similar situation where it took everyone a long time to get to the building. "Without her trauma, she didnt matter", wrote a commentator in the Tulane Hullabaloo. She had had a fairly upper middle class life yet was working at multiple fast food restaurants and barely getting by. Mackenzie Fierceton is the child of a doctor who attended a private prep school in a wealthy suburb. And what area of it are you going to explore with your Ph.D.? Laura Flynn is our supervising producer. But it did open with these literary elements of what I was feeling like, and the experience I was having in those moments. And now they have to face the fact that someone who looks like them, who shares all these identities with them, could be the source of all of this harm. So they didnt ask about that in this meeting. I want to talk about where you think that pushback came from. In the transcript, I wrote it was really just focused on: What happened the night you went into foster care? And I think its true. [1]:95, Judge Kristine Allen Kerr ultimately held for Morrison. And even now, The New Yorker quotes a lot from my childhood journals describing my abuse. After her graduation summa cum laude, political science professor Anne Norton invited Fierceton to stay with her and her partner in their large house in Northwest Philadelphia for as long as she needed to in order to complete her master's over the next year. Its, in my opinion, because they get overlooked and the kids like me are kind of rendered invisible by the privileges of our biological families. Then the Philly paramedics couldnt figure out how to get to the building and then they couldnt get me out. MF: But yeah, that, I guess, just one point of clarification that I recently, in the last few months, just found out about. Thats been my understanding of it. Then the University of Pennsylvania accused her of lying. Medical records, records from child welfare services, corroborating letters from detectives and lawyers and elementary, middle, and high school teachers, childhood friends, professors basically everyone who had known me. And I didnt really know any information, except for that he had had a medical emergency in class and then been pronounced dead at the hospital. Is that your experience with it as well? [2], The trust notified Fierceton at the beginning of 2021 that it was conducting an investigation into the allegations. But it was definitely something I saw happening sort of this funneling of kids from the child welfare to criminal justice system. RG: so that people have the background there. And then as the different internships, and then I went to get my masters in social work and all of this happened, I started to see that continue in different capacities while I was in different roles, seeing that theme in this relationship between foster care and the criminal justice system. And Im curious where you would pinpoint it, but I would guess that its The Philadelphia Inquirer story that started with an incorrect lead that said: Mackenzie Fierston grew up poor, something very close to that? They had done their own investigation again, quotes on investigation and then I had submitted over a hundred pages of documents to them. And please go and leave us a rating or a review it helps people find the show. And I was the one who uncovered my classmates death. So, yes, an article came out in the local paper saying that she had been arrested. MF: She definitely asked some questions about it. I mean, youd been taking loss after loss, despite having the facts on your side. But she says she occasionally received packages at her dorm room containing objects she suspected had come from her mother, such as a bracelet with an inscription about finding the truth, or others close to her, such as a pair of sneakers, which she believed Lovelace, who had sometimes helped her stretch before workouts, had sent. Her admission to Oxford was unaffected, and she began her graduate studies in sociology there later in the year, with a Penn professor covering her tuition. Like one of them was describing a biological child in a house as another foster child, and something about a half-brother or something.What were those and how were those errors kind of deployed against you? She, to my knowledge, has stuck by that. That evening that the article came out is when I got a call from the reporter saying: I got this anonymous email that said X, Y, Z, and I wanted to let you know. [22] It went into greater detail about her past, providing more substantiation for her abuse allegations from teachers, fellow students and their parents, Carrie Brandt (the police detective who had investigated and arrested Morrison) and her allegations that Morrison had enabled Lovelace's sexual abuse. She was then admitted to Penn on a full scholarship, where she identified as a first-generation low-income (FGLI) student despite her background due to her estrangement from her parents and lack of financial support from them, a classification she says Penn officials told her was acceptable in those circumstances. Mackenzie Fierceton was named Penn's 2021 Rhodes Scholar. A picture of her was posted at the nurse's station should she make the attempt. She had wanted to appeal the Rhodes committee's findings, but Rafaelle advised her that Penn had hinted to him that it might consider referring the matter to federal prosecutors on the grounds that she had lied about being FGLI on her Free Application for Federal Student Aid form. The mother hired a high-powered attorney and engaged in a local campaign to discredit Mackenzie. MF: No, I found it before. Fierceton, according to Penn's response, had learned during her parents' divorce how to make calls to the child-abuse hotline and that teachers were mandatory reporters. And then theres also foster siblings in the sense of other people who are in the foster care system who youre living with. Whereas a social worker comes into a poor home and looks around and sees just the normal poverty that our system has foisted on people and says: Oh, well, clearly this is somebody that needs to be stripped out of here. How long were you in the hospital? 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